Excluding Taxa from Identify

Whipped up a little experiment to see how useful it would be to exclude taxa from Identify, for anyone interested.

Non-lichenized Fungi: http://www.inaturalist.org/observations/identify?taxon_id=47170&without_taxon_id=54743,117869,152030,152028

Moths (i.e. Lepidoptera without butterflies): http://www.inaturalist.org/observations/identify?taxon_id=47157&without_taxon_id=47224,47654

Invertebrates: http://www.inaturalist.org/observations/identify?taxon_id=1&without_taxon_id=2

Vascular Plants w/o Grasses: http://www.inaturalist.org/observations/identify?taxon_id=211194&without_taxon_id=47162

Haven't committed to the extent of adding UI for it. Holler if you find this useful. Obvious doesn't deal with situations where people ID things at a high level, e.g. lichens ID'd as "Fungi" are going to appear in that non-lichenized fungi search. Also, since this is based on IDs, these URLs will break after drastic, high-level taxon changes, but there shouldn't be too many of those. Also have not added this to obs search, just Identify.

Posted by kueda kueda, September 13, 2016 07:44 PM

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The non-lichenized fungi grid looks a lot more digestible for this Lecanor-ignoramus.
@noah_siegel - check it out.

Posted by leptonia over 5 years ago (Flag)

Looks interesting and like it would be quite useful for someone who is looking for specific taxa. So in the following string that is the last part of your moth ID link, does 47157 = moths, and 47224%2C47654 are butterfly taxa? Apologies, but I'm not very familiar with decoding this sort of thing!

identify?taxon_id=47157&without_taxon_id=47224%2C47654

Posted by beschwar over 5 years ago (Flag)

That's right, and the %2C is just an encoded comma. You can always look up the ID of a taxon by going to it's iNat page and clicking "Permalink" in the upper right. That will take you to a page like http://www.inaturalist.org/taxa/47224-Papilionoidea, so you know the ID of that taxon is 47224.

Posted by kueda over 5 years ago (Flag)

First off, Everybody is a Lecanorignoramus!
Second, is there a table of the major group ID's that regular identifiers could look up their groups to include and exclude?
For this bryologist, exclusions could simply be done by asking for the order name of the group I would want to look at.
Not to change the subject, but I will. I have been looking for a forum where I could make the following suggestion: Could you put a button on the ID form for each observation that would get the original photo? Since so many bryo photos are poor, I need to look at the highest resolution I can get on a regular basis. It is time expensive to go to the observation to get to the original photo. I imagine this would be useful for insects and other tiny things too.

Posted by kkellman over 5 years ago (Flag)

Ken, there's no table, but you can go to the relevant taxon pages and use the permalink approach described above to get the taxon ID you want to exclude. To see the original size of a photo in Identify, click the photo. It should load the original size.

Posted by kueda over 5 years ago (Flag)

Ooo, this is great! I was imaging a feature like this would be useful! Thanks for sharing. I imagine more people would use it if you post to the Google group too (apologies if I missed it).

Posted by carrieseltzer over 5 years ago (Flag)

I'd love a taxon entry for Non-passerine birds! Great idea @kueda !

Posted by dannym about 5 years ago (Flag)

Well, we do not support taxon entries for things that aren't taxa, like non-passerine birds, but you can exclude things from Identify, e.g. only showing observations of non-passerine birds: http://www.inaturalist.org/observations/identify?taxon_id=3&without_taxon_id=7251

Posted by kueda about 5 years ago (Flag)

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