Taxonomic Swap 124231 (Guardado el 09/03/2023)

Zhang et al. 2020 used genomic analysis to determine that Speyeria is a subgenus of Argynnis. The Pelham catalog and Moth Photographers Group adopted this change.

This taxon swap will accomplish the updating of the species and subspecies names. It will be followed by moving the species to the subgenus Speyeria.

Zhang et al. 2020: https://www.biodiversitylibrary.org/page/60617484
Pelham Catalog: http://butterfliesofamerica.com/US-Can-Cat.htm
MPG: (one such page) http://mothphotographersgroup.msstate.edu/species.php?hodges=4450

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Añadido por treichard el marzo 9, 2023 02:29 TARDE | Comprometido por treichard el 09 de marzo de 2023
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I have reservations about this taxon swap, which seems to be premature. Please see comments in the forum.

Publicado por ellenjones6 hace 12 meses

@ellenjones This change has been made in Pelham's catalog
https://www.butterfliesofamerica.com/US-Can-Cat.htm
Butterflies of America
https://www.butterfliesofamerica.com/L/Nymphalidae.htm
and many web sites, including the Butterflies of North Carolina
https://auth1.dpr.ncparks.gov/nbnc/a/accounts.php

Good to see it here too.

Publicado por salmanabdulali hace 12 meses

Has this been done at BAMONA and NABA and Lepidopterists' Society yet?

Publicado por lakekoshare hace 12 meses

Here are my comments from the forum page, which has now been closed.

Has this change been adopted by Butterflies and Moths of North America? Has the Integrated Taxonomic Information System incorporated this change?

Yes, I read your justification (https://www.inaturalist.org/taxon_swaps/124231 15 ) and am underwhelmed. One of the sources you cite is a moth photographers group. If the Zhang et al material is so compelling, it would seem that BAMONA and ITIS would have adopted the change. Have they?

@treichard Has the paragraph you cite (https://www.biodiversitylibrary.org/page/60617484#page/17/mode/1up 2 ) been peer reviewed? The para says that “our genomic studies” (not specified) support the view that Speyeria should be considered a subgenus within Argynnis, thus supporting Simonson’s 2006 “suggestion.” Have other specialists weighed in on this “suggestion”? If not, why doesn’t iNaturalist wait until this change is widely accepted, instead of being a “suggestion” that one research group supports? Their data may indeed be compelling. If so, sources like BAMONA and ITIS will adopt this “suggestion,” and at that point it would be appropriate for iNaturalist to do likewise.

Publicado por ellenjones6 hace 12 meses

Let's have one discussion about this instead of three, and have it here: https://www.inaturalist.org/flags/609551

Publicado por treichard hace 12 meses

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